Oct 2, 2023·edited Oct 2, 2023Liked by Terry Glavin
There's a saying that hindsight makes mediocre majors sound like wise generals. The Nazi-in-the-gallery is a PR nightmare of the Liberals own making. It's a glaring display of gross incompetence which they promptly doubled the damage by requesting Hansard expunge the record. Ineptness followed by a public attempt at a cover-up. We're not dealing with the best and brightest here.
Perhaps far fewer would have joined the pumped up outrage chorus of of the Nazi-in-the-gallery debacle had Mark Miller not posted a surreptitious video condemning Poilievre for not applauding enthusiastically enough.
I'm sick to death of the descent into pettiness while the big issues remain unaddressed. Let's not lose sight that the government lacks ambition to address matters critical to Canadian interests like foreign interference in Canadian politics.
I can accept that inviting Mr Hunka was a simple screw-up. I mean, why should we expect Anthony Rota (a guy with a political science degree) to know any history? Cripes - even I knew the Sov Union was our ally, at least after they were Hitler's ally.
What is unforgivable is the government response: the Dauphin somehow wants to blame "Russian disinformation" and then the request to erase the official records of the House to hide their idiocy! We are dealing with profoundly unserious people - as you say, nowhere near the best and the brightest.
I forgot about the Russia! Russia! Russia! disinformation accusation. No doubt Russia threw a little more fuel on the fire but the blaze was already going.
I often wonder how we so consistently elect idiots and charlatans. My conclusion is these hucksters present a good public image that we accept at face value.
The mistake made was to make Mr. Hunta stand up in House and take a standing ovation. It was not necessary, not much to be gained. In hindsight, somebody with even an inkling of what Ukraine was like during the war years, should have alerted somebody.
I mean, in fairness, they were all busy trying to clap the loudest as soon as they heard “hero.” It was probably so loud in there they didn’t even fully catch all of Rota’s very vague introduction. And even if you did have concerns, you’d probably be thinking, “well, he was approved to come so surely I’m mistaken...”
Why Rota and none of his staff caught this because they had, apparently, no awareness of the Deschenes Commission at all is astonishing to me.
She absolutely should have known. This is not taking up " her grandfather ..." but I cannot see how it would be possible for her not to know about the role of Ukrainians in German service, not just the Waffen-SS, during the war.
"While there are occasions where crying ‘Nazi!’ should be the beginning and ending of the conversation, this isn’t one of them". Ling part of the crowd calling the truckers this, so his credibility is stretched beyond thin.
I highly recommend those interested in the war follow/review the LaRouche Organization in the states. A daily comprehensive review of the war with scholarly insight.
As for the lauding of Freeland. We part company. I listened recently to her speech at the Boston University. It was a chilling speech in every way. It shone insofar as her affiliation with the WEF (she sits on the board) was so evident. You cannot serve two masters.
As for the Ottawa Citizen, which I followed during the trucker convoy, left me with supreme disdain for that publication. Never have I witnessed someone so delighted to remove rights and freedoms from taxpaying Canadian citizens as Freeland. “We will find you and it will bite” is a sentence I will not forget. If that doesn’t highlight her leanings nothing will, regardless of history.
I know very little about Russian/Ukraine history, what I do know now was not gained in Canada. I instead review current events which fall far short of anything any Canadian should accept, regardless of history of the players.
I do hope readers take the time to review your link. While not from this source I was aware of the content explained in it. Because I don’t follow MSM. . Always two sides. This highlights that beautifully. Thank you for forwarding the other side of the story.
I would be more convinced if the examples were taken from the period prior to the Russian annexation of Crimea. Some of the activities are simply referred to as occurring without specifying when, but every one that has a specific time of occurrence is post-2014. I don't think "the west" - whether the US or NATO - is obliged to accept that activities in Ukraine are a not-to-be-crossed red line *after* Russia has invaded, annexed, and occupied portions of the country.
It was the events prior to 2014 that led to Russia invading Crimea. The Russian Black Sea Fleet was based in Sevastopol Crimea. After the dissolution of the USSR the Ukrainians and Russians agreed to share the base. If Ukraine joined NATO it would mean Russia's main warm water deep sea port would be under US control.
Sure - but the article cited doesn't mention that; to the extent the author is specific about dates, he specifies events that occurred after the Russian invasion and annexation.
Not with you on this Terry. You missed the Rota / Hunka campaign funding affiliation. Justin Ling filed patently fake reports with CBC on Trucker Convoy weapons in Ottawa. Don't trust him; Journos that cite "experts" to fluff out their stories are bald cheats. Moreover, you failed to apprehend the broad truth about the SS as a gateway for Hunka to murder innocent Poles, the actual "old" enemy. Study the history of Ukraine and you will see. You failed to plumb the depths of evil in this man who by simple association has imperatively been indicted. Like any murder gang, one must kill to join.
I m mostly with Mr Ritzker, and also with Mr Glavin. That said it’s easy to get carried away on the propaganda front.
To wit:
“Fourteen members of the NATO alliance, along with Sweden, have teamed up for multiple exercises over 12 days off the cost of Portugal to test underwater sea drones that have real-time ability to send "a deterrence signal to the enemy, be it Russia or somebody else," said Lt. Gen. Hans-Werner Wiermann, head of NATO’s cell for protecting undersea infrastructure, according to a report from Bloomberg.”
Key learning points here? Fear: “ 95% of financial transactions are carried in underground cables”. Threats “ The exercises come almost exactly a year after the intentional bombings of the Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines in the Baltic Sea, which highlighted NATO's difficulty in deterring attacks and monitoring suspicious activity around critical underwater infrastructure. While many members of the alliance have suspected Russian involvement in the attack, NATO has yet to formally assign responsibility to any nation or organization.” Note that Biden claimed publicly he would blow up the pipeline. Anyone think he didn’t? Really ?
And it requires all of us to be properly respectful of history and our right to informed consent or denial to and of, government actions. As the liberals take away our liberty and weaponize the legacy media. And remain in power thanks to an NDP Cabal of weasels. Justin Ling indeed “ files patently false reports with CBC on trucker convoy weapons in Ottawa”. And that angered me at the time , and now still the burn of that false accusation remains , along with “ the truckers set fire to an Ottawa apartment building”.
The fact that the Ukrainian men volunteered to serve Hitler was good enough for me. The SS as that, as they are known to be the selected ones to do the majority of killing of those deemed undesirable.
I got a queasy feeling when I read that the University of Alberta is under pressure to return scholarship and endowment money because it was donated by, or in the name of, problematic figures. The Canadian Institute of Ukrainian Studies at U of A does important and necessary work - including into the Holocaust and Ukrainian collaboration - and their scholars and students should not lose funding because of this. Especially not right now.
There must be a different way forward. I’m seeing students who probably had no idea these funds had problematic connections smeared as “proud beneficiaries of Nazi endowed money.”
My hope is everyone can take a step back and reassess.
Great refresher reading, I had overlooked the links to the Ling and Maloney articles the first time around. Much better informed for reading them now. Thanks much.
I'm disappointed that Terry continues to downplay the ongoing influence of Nazis in Ukraine. It's sort of like saying there were some not so bad guards at Auschwitz too, so it was ok if they just melted back into German society after the war, as many probably did. As for Justin Ling, while the article linked here is very good, I don't trust his take on things ever since he wholeheartedly smeared all of the Convoy because of a half dozen obnoxious loons. That's my memory.
Yes, everyone is talking about this story and it's helping Russia bolster its propaganda, but I don't think everyone involved was just momentarily dumb. Norman Finkelstein makes an interesting point on Useful Idiots about Zelensky's behaviour in Parliament. If there was one person there who should have made the connection that Hunka was likely a Nazi, it was him, yet Z raised his fist in tribute anyways. I suppose it would have looked strange not to acknowledge Hunka, but on the other hand, that would have been better than raising a fist in solidarity, wouldn't it?
I have it on good authority (actually I just made this up), that the Liberals wanted their SS/Nazi ovation expunged from the Parlimentary record because they were afraid their bank accounts would be frozen.
While the history of human brutality is all too often overlooked and makes for a very worthwhile study, the conversation here is loudly overwhelming the meaning of the original post - the cost of unseriousness of our parliamentarians.
Two points, not to add to the confusion but rather to show how deeply we should study the WW II history of the German, Polish and Russian to add context to the discussion, Germany invading Poland in September 1939 initiated the west declaring war on Germany. In the spring of 1940 the USSR murdered 1000's of Polish officer in the Katyn forest massacre and in June of 1941 Germany turned on the USSR .
In that year, by my math, Mr Hunka was 15 years old and while his background up till today is worthy of study in assessing his character, it's irrelevant to the judgement of what is of prime importance to me, the despairing level of juvenile behaviour in those who govern this country.
Are we fiddling in Ukraine while this country burns?
It would be most helpful if the thinking could shift from World War II to Cold War:
“By 1978, the Soviet bloc planted some four thousand agents of influence in the Islamic world, armed with hundreds of thousands of copies of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion…” - Ion Mihai Pacepa
I told the Post the same in a letter last week but they didnt run it. Maybe I softened them up for you😉I wrote a cover story for the Alberta Report on the Holodomor back in the 80s and Luciuk contributed a sidebar on the Galician SS. One of my proudest journalistic moments.
There's a saying that hindsight makes mediocre majors sound like wise generals. The Nazi-in-the-gallery is a PR nightmare of the Liberals own making. It's a glaring display of gross incompetence which they promptly doubled the damage by requesting Hansard expunge the record. Ineptness followed by a public attempt at a cover-up. We're not dealing with the best and brightest here.
Perhaps far fewer would have joined the pumped up outrage chorus of of the Nazi-in-the-gallery debacle had Mark Miller not posted a surreptitious video condemning Poilievre for not applauding enthusiastically enough.
I'm sick to death of the descent into pettiness while the big issues remain unaddressed. Let's not lose sight that the government lacks ambition to address matters critical to Canadian interests like foreign interference in Canadian politics.
I can accept that inviting Mr Hunka was a simple screw-up. I mean, why should we expect Anthony Rota (a guy with a political science degree) to know any history? Cripes - even I knew the Sov Union was our ally, at least after they were Hitler's ally.
What is unforgivable is the government response: the Dauphin somehow wants to blame "Russian disinformation" and then the request to erase the official records of the House to hide their idiocy! We are dealing with profoundly unserious people - as you say, nowhere near the best and the brightest.
I forgot about the Russia! Russia! Russia! disinformation accusation. No doubt Russia threw a little more fuel on the fire but the blaze was already going.
I often wonder how we so consistently elect idiots and charlatans. My conclusion is these hucksters present a good public image that we accept at face value.
The mistake made was to make Mr. Hunta stand up in House and take a standing ovation. It was not necessary, not much to be gained. In hindsight, somebody with even an inkling of what Ukraine was like during the war years, should have alerted somebody.
Exactly.
I mean, in fairness, they were all busy trying to clap the loudest as soon as they heard “hero.” It was probably so loud in there they didn’t even fully catch all of Rota’s very vague introduction. And even if you did have concerns, you’d probably be thinking, “well, he was approved to come so surely I’m mistaken...”
Why Rota and none of his staff caught this because they had, apparently, no awareness of the Deschenes Commission at all is astonishing to me.
Shouldn't Chrystia Freeland have known?
She absolutely should have known. This is not taking up " her grandfather ..." but I cannot see how it would be possible for her not to know about the role of Ukrainians in German service, not just the Waffen-SS, during the war.
"While there are occasions where crying ‘Nazi!’ should be the beginning and ending of the conversation, this isn’t one of them". Ling part of the crowd calling the truckers this, so his credibility is stretched beyond thin.
I highly recommend those interested in the war follow/review the LaRouche Organization in the states. A daily comprehensive review of the war with scholarly insight.
As for the lauding of Freeland. We part company. I listened recently to her speech at the Boston University. It was a chilling speech in every way. It shone insofar as her affiliation with the WEF (she sits on the board) was so evident. You cannot serve two masters.
As for the Ottawa Citizen, which I followed during the trucker convoy, left me with supreme disdain for that publication. Never have I witnessed someone so delighted to remove rights and freedoms from taxpaying Canadian citizens as Freeland. “We will find you and it will bite” is a sentence I will not forget. If that doesn’t highlight her leanings nothing will, regardless of history.
I know very little about Russian/Ukraine history, what I do know now was not gained in Canada. I instead review current events which fall far short of anything any Canadian should accept, regardless of history of the players.
You might be interested in this article from the CATO Institute on Washington's involvement in instigating the Ukraine/Russia War. https://www.cato.org/commentary/washington-helped-trigger-ukraine-war
I do hope readers take the time to review your link. While not from this source I was aware of the content explained in it. Because I don’t follow MSM. . Always two sides. This highlights that beautifully. Thank you for forwarding the other side of the story.
I would be more convinced if the examples were taken from the period prior to the Russian annexation of Crimea. Some of the activities are simply referred to as occurring without specifying when, but every one that has a specific time of occurrence is post-2014. I don't think "the west" - whether the US or NATO - is obliged to accept that activities in Ukraine are a not-to-be-crossed red line *after* Russia has invaded, annexed, and occupied portions of the country.
It was the events prior to 2014 that led to Russia invading Crimea. The Russian Black Sea Fleet was based in Sevastopol Crimea. After the dissolution of the USSR the Ukrainians and Russians agreed to share the base. If Ukraine joined NATO it would mean Russia's main warm water deep sea port would be under US control.
Sure - but the article cited doesn't mention that; to the extent the author is specific about dates, he specifies events that occurred after the Russian invasion and annexation.
Not with you on this Terry. You missed the Rota / Hunka campaign funding affiliation. Justin Ling filed patently fake reports with CBC on Trucker Convoy weapons in Ottawa. Don't trust him; Journos that cite "experts" to fluff out their stories are bald cheats. Moreover, you failed to apprehend the broad truth about the SS as a gateway for Hunka to murder innocent Poles, the actual "old" enemy. Study the history of Ukraine and you will see. You failed to plumb the depths of evil in this man who by simple association has imperatively been indicted. Like any murder gang, one must kill to join.
I m mostly with Mr Ritzker, and also with Mr Glavin. That said it’s easy to get carried away on the propaganda front.
To wit:
“Fourteen members of the NATO alliance, along with Sweden, have teamed up for multiple exercises over 12 days off the cost of Portugal to test underwater sea drones that have real-time ability to send "a deterrence signal to the enemy, be it Russia or somebody else," said Lt. Gen. Hans-Werner Wiermann, head of NATO’s cell for protecting undersea infrastructure, according to a report from Bloomberg.”
Key learning points here? Fear: “ 95% of financial transactions are carried in underground cables”. Threats “ The exercises come almost exactly a year after the intentional bombings of the Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines in the Baltic Sea, which highlighted NATO's difficulty in deterring attacks and monitoring suspicious activity around critical underwater infrastructure. While many members of the alliance have suspected Russian involvement in the attack, NATO has yet to formally assign responsibility to any nation or organization.” Note that Biden claimed publicly he would blow up the pipeline. Anyone think he didn’t? Really ?
And it requires all of us to be properly respectful of history and our right to informed consent or denial to and of, government actions. As the liberals take away our liberty and weaponize the legacy media. And remain in power thanks to an NDP Cabal of weasels. Justin Ling indeed “ files patently false reports with CBC on trucker convoy weapons in Ottawa”. And that angered me at the time , and now still the burn of that false accusation remains , along with “ the truckers set fire to an Ottawa apartment building”.
Grrrrr !
Seymour Hersh has written a series of articles on the Nord
Stream Pipelines sabotage. He's on substack.
The fact that the Ukrainian men volunteered to serve Hitler was good enough for me. The SS as that, as they are known to be the selected ones to do the majority of killing of those deemed undesirable.
Thank you for making this post public, Terry.
I got a queasy feeling when I read that the University of Alberta is under pressure to return scholarship and endowment money because it was donated by, or in the name of, problematic figures. The Canadian Institute of Ukrainian Studies at U of A does important and necessary work - including into the Holocaust and Ukrainian collaboration - and their scholars and students should not lose funding because of this. Especially not right now.
There must be a different way forward. I’m seeing students who probably had no idea these funds had problematic connections smeared as “proud beneficiaries of Nazi endowed money.”
My hope is everyone can take a step back and reassess.
Aye to that.
Great refresher reading, I had overlooked the links to the Ling and Maloney articles the first time around. Much better informed for reading them now. Thanks much.
Thanks Richard.
I'm disappointed that Terry continues to downplay the ongoing influence of Nazis in Ukraine. It's sort of like saying there were some not so bad guards at Auschwitz too, so it was ok if they just melted back into German society after the war, as many probably did. As for Justin Ling, while the article linked here is very good, I don't trust his take on things ever since he wholeheartedly smeared all of the Convoy because of a half dozen obnoxious loons. That's my memory.
Yes, everyone is talking about this story and it's helping Russia bolster its propaganda, but I don't think everyone involved was just momentarily dumb. Norman Finkelstein makes an interesting point on Useful Idiots about Zelensky's behaviour in Parliament. If there was one person there who should have made the connection that Hunka was likely a Nazi, it was him, yet Z raised his fist in tribute anyways. I suppose it would have looked strange not to acknowledge Hunka, but on the other hand, that would have been better than raising a fist in solidarity, wouldn't it?
I have it on good authority (actually I just made this up), that the Liberals wanted their SS/Nazi ovation expunged from the Parlimentary record because they were afraid their bank accounts would be frozen.
🤣😂🤣
I now have a better understanding after reading "Operation Payback". I have ordered the book "Enemy Archives" and look forward to understanding even more. There is much valuable information available on this website: https://www.lucorg.com/ especially here: https://www.lucorg.com/oppose-russian-disinformation-and-propaganda/
While the history of human brutality is all too often overlooked and makes for a very worthwhile study, the conversation here is loudly overwhelming the meaning of the original post - the cost of unseriousness of our parliamentarians.
Two points, not to add to the confusion but rather to show how deeply we should study the WW II history of the German, Polish and Russian to add context to the discussion, Germany invading Poland in September 1939 initiated the west declaring war on Germany. In the spring of 1940 the USSR murdered 1000's of Polish officer in the Katyn forest massacre and in June of 1941 Germany turned on the USSR .
In that year, by my math, Mr Hunka was 15 years old and while his background up till today is worthy of study in assessing his character, it's irrelevant to the judgement of what is of prime importance to me, the despairing level of juvenile behaviour in those who govern this country.
Are we fiddling in Ukraine while this country burns?
Mr Glavin please watch and consider this point of view. Thank you. https://www.youtube.com/live/1k3GBMJgP-8?si=NDVEgZh_9uDmF3dm
Bingo. I watch him consistently, he gets it.
It would be most helpful if the thinking could shift from World War II to Cold War:
“By 1978, the Soviet bloc planted some four thousand agents of influence in the Islamic world, armed with hundreds of thousands of copies of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion…” - Ion Mihai Pacepa
KGB / FSB are total hypocrites.
I told the Post the same in a letter last week but they didnt run it. Maybe I softened them up for you😉I wrote a cover story for the Alberta Report on the Holodomor back in the 80s and Luciuk contributed a sidebar on the Galician SS. One of my proudest journalistic moments.
And yet, although the Russians exploited it, they didn't break the story; they didn't publish it; and they didn't serve as interviewees opining on it.
What could have slipped by as a non-event, was seized upon by a sensationalizing and captured MSM.
𝘘𝘶𝘪 𝘣𝘰𝘯𝘰?