Jean Charest is not the only retired politician or retired civil servant serving Chinese Communist Party’s interests in Canada. There should be a public REGISTRY OF SHAME where all those unpatriotic freeloaders are exposed for patriotic Canadians to be alerted to know who is undermining our security and our prosperity.
If memory servers, Jean Chretien, less than one week after leaving office, went to work for Dentons. You know the law firm with the CCP as their biggest client. I am sure the fact that his son-in-law is André Desmarais, was president of Power Corp. of Canada had nothing to do with anything. Power Corporation has multi-billion dollar railroad, real estate and power generation projects in China, and Chretien was lobbying the CCP for Power Corporation less than a month after leaving office. Chretien is the China advisor on the boards of Ivanhoe Energy and South Gobi Energy. Check out the China-Tibet railway built by Power Corporation to facilitate the movement of millions of Han Chinese into Tibet. I could go on, but I hope you get the point.
I believe in the case of the CCP having its hands with in the Governments across Canada by offering promises of lucretive fiancial deals with members, once they are out office, as well as donating to their campagnes, and special interests, makes it near impossible to root the CCP out of Canada. They have their tenticles in every area of this country and own plenty of farmland in the prairies, own businesses, care homes, and have had access to Canada's resources as well. Its an impossible feat to remove them from Canada. Now they are in our Senate and in Quebec they have carte blanche as does the UN, (the WHO is also now run by these regimes as well). These regimes are who the Government of Canada now emulates. Its why our Five Eyes and allies no longer trust us.
Cameron Otis of the RCMP Intelligence unit being caught sending information to Iran has caused massive distrust in the RCMP and Canada by our allies as well. The fact Lucky told the families of those who lost loved ones in the flight the Iranian regime shot from the sky, was another loss of trust to many Iranian Canadian's. I drift to Trudeau bowing before the Iranian leader and kissing his hand when he arrived there after the Iranian Canadian's were murdered. It was disturbing to watch his performance. How any Canadian or our allies would find trust in him and his Government is beyond me. Unless we can rid ourselves of Trudeau, his regime, those buried in the same ideology, we will remain untrustworthy allies to any country and to Canadian's themselves. So I believe its far to late to save Canada as the majority of politicians are embedded in ideology and dream of ruling Canada in a similar fashion as both China and Iran. Most of Canada's judicial system and our Institutions have been severly compromised by the same ideology, regimes, and group think. There really is not much hope for Iranian, Chinese, or any Canadian's as the majority of the system has been captured by those very entities.
Terry, the repeal of the Conservatives citizenship revocation provisions and the Liberal repeal is less significant than you portray. Citizenship can still be revoked in cases of fraud or misrepresentation in the application process. So failure to disclose senior roles in Iranian government security agencies and the like would provide grounds for revocation.
I think the harder issue is more operational in identifying those individuals, gathering the evidence and revoking citizenship and likely permanent residency, along with the resources needed to do so.
But we should do so and the initial funding will hopefully help.
Thanks for this Andrew. I ordinarily have a spring in my step but I dunno. The dirty work being done here isn't being done by "senior" IRGC or CCP. The OCAO affiliates here did not and do not misrepresent themselves. They didn't need to commit fraud to get citizenship and they're quite open about their affiliations. But it is, as you say, the "harder" issue that needs to be addressed.
Agree not at senior levels. But there may be misrepresentation or fraud at lower levels, given the accounts of their activities and the numbers involved. The degree to which, of course, is hard to know, and the government needs to review its vetting processes and the like to reduce future numbers and the harder process of looking at those already here. Without, of course, making it harder for Iranians leaving Iran to improve their lives.
Again, the problem we face in this country is not really about Iranians leaving Iran for Canada. A problem, and it’s complicated. The bigger problem is the IRGC network (and the CCP UFWD OCAO network) that is already here. It is extremely well connected. The stories I'm hearing are hair-raising. Just got off the phone 5 minutes ago with an Iranian journalist who has confirmed a member of a senior IRGC family was recruited into the Liberal Party, to stans as a candidate, by Trudesu himself.
And it is a more complex problem to address as it requires good intelligence work by CSIS to identify members of the network, effective review of their Permanent Residents and citizenship applications to assess whether fraud and misrepresentation would allow for revocation, even before getting to possible criminal charges. Candidate vetting by all parties needs to be stronger as there is a fair amount of naiveté among politicians, more prevalent on any number of issues for the Liberals and NDP (the Conservatives sometimes err too much in the other direction). Don't discount the story you heard from your Iranian journalist friend of course.
You are minimizing the significance of the Liberals gleefully repealing the Conservatives citizenship nullification law.
As Terry points out: Iranian agents get here legitimately and then set up to terrorize Iranian Canadians.
You seem to prefer Trudeaupian anti-Conservative gamesmanship over anything of substance. You are in tight company with mainstream Canadian journalists in that regard
No, just never convinced that citizenship revocation was likely to be a useful practical tool, in addition to the differential treatment issues between radicalized immigrants and radicalized Canadian-born. When I tracked these around the time the revocation provisions were discussed and introduced, a significant number were Canadian-born and thus not subject to revocation.
Eliminating nullification just satisfied a moronic 'progressivism' which J. Trudeau always represented: Entertainment Tonight put in charge of serious affairs of state.
Implementation of Canada's relevant legislation, promulgation of new legislation to fill the wide gaps in existing laws, and massive allocation of resources to hire highly qualified people with knowledge and native fluency in Farsi and Chinese language to enforce these laws would do it.
Darn straight. If there was the political will to protect non-white Canadians from menace by agents of foreign powers, we would have started doing that a long time ago. No arrests and no expulsions from Canada emboldens them to become more and more aggressive in their ugly nasty work. Their hiding in plain sight gives our Canadian cabinet ministers plausible deniability that there is any much cause for our concern about this.
I take your point on that but surely the obsequious Trudeau government 'dialogue' with Kovrig's state kidnappers more than cancels out any actual resources they devoted to it.
In the briefing on Friday, Freeland called the IRGC a terrorist organization. I was ecstatic. It was short lived. So they know bloody well it's a terrorist organization but won't give it that official designation. Why?! Reporters need to keep on this...
Remember Justin Trudeau’s brother and campaign advisor, Alexandre (Sacha) Trudeau? The guy who made the pro-Iranian propaganda documentary for CBC "The New Great Game". Producers of the film that were not acknowledged by the CBC, included Iran's state-funded propaganda arm Press-TV, along with Al-Jazeera Arabic, and the anti-semitic Media Education Foundation (producer of the anti-Israel film "Peace, Propaganda, and the Promised Land" found by CBC Radio-Canada's own ombudsman to be propaganda that never should have aired). Maybe Sacha has another paid gig with the Iranian government? That might explain why Justin Trudeau refuses to list the IRGC as the terrorist organization it is.
Polievre asked Trudeau why he refuses to list IRGC as a terrorist organization 4 or 5 times in question period, and Trudeau refused to answer, and kept going on about some irrelevant nonsense. Why does the speaker let Trudeau refuse to answer questions. The speaker should do his job, or step down.
I have no idea how the misogynistic hashtag business got done, but am cynical enough to think the Liberals were behind it. Who knows how many sleeper hashtags are out there.
Exerting real Canadian sovereignty requires courage and hard work:
Mercantilist Canadian businesses can partner comfortably with China's tyrants. That shows the gross negligence of those Canadians who are in charge of maintaining Canada for all Canadians, not just those in the right 'business councils' or international service clubs like the WEF.
The obeisant Trudeau government is the problem. It needs to be voted out of office.
Oh for sure it's too late for this government. Vote them out. Regarding others like Charest, I suspect many have had enough of this elite and his like. It's past time for bureaucratic bullshit as well. Everyone of us has a role to play to out democratic enemies. At every turn, make life a misery for foreign agents and their friends. First order of business for a 'real' government is stop them financially...go after the money and I mean in every way possible.
We have Chinese police operating on Canadian soil, and a very well embedded Iranian spy agency operating here. We did NOTHING when Iran shot a plane load of our citizens out of the sky …
We are incredibly weak and even if we wanted to, we probably don’t even have the resources to get rid of either the Chinese police or the Iranian spies.
AND it’s my understanding we just gave sanctuary to the Ayatollahs adult children and their families, so there is no political will to do anything.
Terry: You point out that citizenship nullification was outlawed by the Trudeau government, yet you get comments here that suggest Canadians just work with the toothless remaining law which renders it nearly impossible to revoke citizenship 'merely' because the citizen is a confirmed terrorist loyal to a foreign tyranny.
Sunday morning on CBC : A prime example of how the Anointed classes support prostrating ourselves politically toward China was in full bloom as a University of Toronto professor explained how Canada needed to re-state its policy of 'diplomatic ambiguity' toward the issue of Taiwan and China.
Canada is a large country but its Liberal political class conducts itself in politics and in business as if our Canada is a small banana republic that, in order to survve, has to be servile toward the Chinese Communist Party syndicate in Beijing.
Only a ballot box revolution can change that.
".....Just how deeply has Canada’s political class become compromised by its intimate and lucrative relationships with individuals and entities affiliated with torture states like Xi Jinping’s China and Ali Khamenei’s Iran?......."
Thank you for a tour-de-force explanation of some of Canada's issues most likely to fail us all, but especially newer (and older) Canadians that have come to Canada under the assumed hope that liberty and a fair chance at full citizenry would be theirs. My only caution would be your comments about Polievre not being as bad for the country when compared with the big two gangs currently planning on winning the next election. While Trudeau has promised nearly all he hasn't delivered, Polievre has proven his instincts lie more with that of an attack dog. When the dog is done with the damage, he has nothing further to offer. It's sad the "Conswervatives" have to resort to a heat-seeking missile for a party leader, one that has more in common with the far right of the U.S. than traditional Canadian values. Our country is sinking toward the right of right, and in our current world situation that places us all in line for a redux of democracy, one that isn't very democratic.
Equating Polievre to an “attack dog” and a “heat-seeking missile” are just typical Liberal ad hominin attacks, used when you have nothing of substance to say, and just want to demonize anyone who disagrees with you. You forgot to label Polievre with the usual list of “-ists” and “-phobes”, but you do go on and to try and equate Polievre to Trump. Canadians are not falling for this nonsense anymore. Look at the latest opinion polls.
Look, you can get to authoritarianism from both the right and the left (remember Stalin?). I am more afraid of the authoritarianism coming from the left, not the right. Was it not Trudeau who suspended civil liberties, implemented the Emergencies Act? Was it not the Liberals who froze the bank accounts of Canadian citizens? Maybe Trudeau and Freeland will next cut off the electricity of any Canadian who dares to challenge them? Is it not Trudeau who is trying to censor the internet? In future posts it would be better to use facts, and not name-calling people “attack dogs” and “heat-seeking missiles”. That sort of rhetoric is tiresome and not productive.
Jean Charest is not the only retired politician or retired civil servant serving Chinese Communist Party’s interests in Canada. There should be a public REGISTRY OF SHAME where all those unpatriotic freeloaders are exposed for patriotic Canadians to be alerted to know who is undermining our security and our prosperity.
If memory servers, Jean Chretien, less than one week after leaving office, went to work for Dentons. You know the law firm with the CCP as their biggest client. I am sure the fact that his son-in-law is André Desmarais, was president of Power Corp. of Canada had nothing to do with anything. Power Corporation has multi-billion dollar railroad, real estate and power generation projects in China, and Chretien was lobbying the CCP for Power Corporation less than a month after leaving office. Chretien is the China advisor on the boards of Ivanhoe Energy and South Gobi Energy. Check out the China-Tibet railway built by Power Corporation to facilitate the movement of millions of Han Chinese into Tibet. I could go on, but I hope you get the point.
James, you are right. If we had REGISTRY OF SHAME, Chrétien should be the first entry.
I believe in the case of the CCP having its hands with in the Governments across Canada by offering promises of lucretive fiancial deals with members, once they are out office, as well as donating to their campagnes, and special interests, makes it near impossible to root the CCP out of Canada. They have their tenticles in every area of this country and own plenty of farmland in the prairies, own businesses, care homes, and have had access to Canada's resources as well. Its an impossible feat to remove them from Canada. Now they are in our Senate and in Quebec they have carte blanche as does the UN, (the WHO is also now run by these regimes as well). These regimes are who the Government of Canada now emulates. Its why our Five Eyes and allies no longer trust us.
Cameron Otis of the RCMP Intelligence unit being caught sending information to Iran has caused massive distrust in the RCMP and Canada by our allies as well. The fact Lucky told the families of those who lost loved ones in the flight the Iranian regime shot from the sky, was another loss of trust to many Iranian Canadian's. I drift to Trudeau bowing before the Iranian leader and kissing his hand when he arrived there after the Iranian Canadian's were murdered. It was disturbing to watch his performance. How any Canadian or our allies would find trust in him and his Government is beyond me. Unless we can rid ourselves of Trudeau, his regime, those buried in the same ideology, we will remain untrustworthy allies to any country and to Canadian's themselves. So I believe its far to late to save Canada as the majority of politicians are embedded in ideology and dream of ruling Canada in a similar fashion as both China and Iran. Most of Canada's judicial system and our Institutions have been severly compromised by the same ideology, regimes, and group think. There really is not much hope for Iranian, Chinese, or any Canadian's as the majority of the system has been captured by those very entities.
Terry, the repeal of the Conservatives citizenship revocation provisions and the Liberal repeal is less significant than you portray. Citizenship can still be revoked in cases of fraud or misrepresentation in the application process. So failure to disclose senior roles in Iranian government security agencies and the like would provide grounds for revocation.
I think the harder issue is more operational in identifying those individuals, gathering the evidence and revoking citizenship and likely permanent residency, along with the resources needed to do so.
But we should do so and the initial funding will hopefully help.
Thanks for this Andrew. I ordinarily have a spring in my step but I dunno. The dirty work being done here isn't being done by "senior" IRGC or CCP. The OCAO affiliates here did not and do not misrepresent themselves. They didn't need to commit fraud to get citizenship and they're quite open about their affiliations. But it is, as you say, the "harder" issue that needs to be addressed.
Agree not at senior levels. But there may be misrepresentation or fraud at lower levels, given the accounts of their activities and the numbers involved. The degree to which, of course, is hard to know, and the government needs to review its vetting processes and the like to reduce future numbers and the harder process of looking at those already here. Without, of course, making it harder for Iranians leaving Iran to improve their lives.
Again, the problem we face in this country is not really about Iranians leaving Iran for Canada. A problem, and it’s complicated. The bigger problem is the IRGC network (and the CCP UFWD OCAO network) that is already here. It is extremely well connected. The stories I'm hearing are hair-raising. Just got off the phone 5 minutes ago with an Iranian journalist who has confirmed a member of a senior IRGC family was recruited into the Liberal Party, to stans as a candidate, by Trudesu himself.
So what your saying then Terry is: Canadians are having their country stolen from within (gov't), am I right?
And it is a more complex problem to address as it requires good intelligence work by CSIS to identify members of the network, effective review of their Permanent Residents and citizenship applications to assess whether fraud and misrepresentation would allow for revocation, even before getting to possible criminal charges. Candidate vetting by all parties needs to be stronger as there is a fair amount of naiveté among politicians, more prevalent on any number of issues for the Liberals and NDP (the Conservatives sometimes err too much in the other direction). Don't discount the story you heard from your Iranian journalist friend of course.
You are minimizing the significance of the Liberals gleefully repealing the Conservatives citizenship nullification law.
As Terry points out: Iranian agents get here legitimately and then set up to terrorize Iranian Canadians.
You seem to prefer Trudeaupian anti-Conservative gamesmanship over anything of substance. You are in tight company with mainstream Canadian journalists in that regard
No, just never convinced that citizenship revocation was likely to be a useful practical tool, in addition to the differential treatment issues between radicalized immigrants and radicalized Canadian-born. When I tracked these around the time the revocation provisions were discussed and introduced, a significant number were Canadian-born and thus not subject to revocation.
Eliminating nullification just satisfied a moronic 'progressivism' which J. Trudeau always represented: Entertainment Tonight put in charge of serious affairs of state.
Implementation of Canada's relevant legislation, promulgation of new legislation to fill the wide gaps in existing laws, and massive allocation of resources to hire highly qualified people with knowledge and native fluency in Farsi and Chinese language to enforce these laws would do it.
That would require sustained political will & a serious institutional commitment to make it work. I worry that neither of this things are imaginable.
Darn straight. If there was the political will to protect non-white Canadians from menace by agents of foreign powers, we would have started doing that a long time ago. No arrests and no expulsions from Canada emboldens them to become more and more aggressive in their ugly nasty work. Their hiding in plain sight gives our Canadian cabinet ministers plausible deniability that there is any much cause for our concern about this.
So: Do white Canadians get some sort of preferential protection "from menace by agents of foreign powers"?
Yes. I judge that Huseyin Celil's matter was not given the generous government resources allocated to the Michael Kovrig matter
I take your point on that but surely the obsequious Trudeau government 'dialogue' with Kovrig's state kidnappers more than cancels out any actual resources they devoted to it.
In the briefing on Friday, Freeland called the IRGC a terrorist organization. I was ecstatic. It was short lived. So they know bloody well it's a terrorist organization but won't give it that official designation. Why?! Reporters need to keep on this...
Remember Justin Trudeau’s brother and campaign advisor, Alexandre (Sacha) Trudeau? The guy who made the pro-Iranian propaganda documentary for CBC "The New Great Game". Producers of the film that were not acknowledged by the CBC, included Iran's state-funded propaganda arm Press-TV, along with Al-Jazeera Arabic, and the anti-semitic Media Education Foundation (producer of the anti-Israel film "Peace, Propaganda, and the Promised Land" found by CBC Radio-Canada's own ombudsman to be propaganda that never should have aired). Maybe Sacha has another paid gig with the Iranian government? That might explain why Justin Trudeau refuses to list the IRGC as the terrorist organization it is.
Polievre asked Trudeau why he refuses to list IRGC as a terrorist organization 4 or 5 times in question period, and Trudeau refused to answer, and kept going on about some irrelevant nonsense. Why does the speaker let Trudeau refuse to answer questions. The speaker should do his job, or step down.
I have no idea how the misogynistic hashtag business got done, but am cynical enough to think the Liberals were behind it. Who knows how many sleeper hashtags are out there.
Exerting real Canadian sovereignty requires courage and hard work:
Mercantilist Canadian businesses can partner comfortably with China's tyrants. That shows the gross negligence of those Canadians who are in charge of maintaining Canada for all Canadians, not just those in the right 'business councils' or international service clubs like the WEF.
The obeisant Trudeau government is the problem. It needs to be voted out of office.
Oh for sure it's too late for this government. Vote them out. Regarding others like Charest, I suspect many have had enough of this elite and his like. It's past time for bureaucratic bullshit as well. Everyone of us has a role to play to out democratic enemies. At every turn, make life a misery for foreign agents and their friends. First order of business for a 'real' government is stop them financially...go after the money and I mean in every way possible.
It’s definately too late
We have Chinese police operating on Canadian soil, and a very well embedded Iranian spy agency operating here. We did NOTHING when Iran shot a plane load of our citizens out of the sky …
We are incredibly weak and even if we wanted to, we probably don’t even have the resources to get rid of either the Chinese police or the Iranian spies.
AND it’s my understanding we just gave sanctuary to the Ayatollahs adult children and their families, so there is no political will to do anything.
Terry: You point out that citizenship nullification was outlawed by the Trudeau government, yet you get comments here that suggest Canadians just work with the toothless remaining law which renders it nearly impossible to revoke citizenship 'merely' because the citizen is a confirmed terrorist loyal to a foreign tyranny.
It is too late, this government is too focused on hash tags (easy pickings) than to actually doing anything. They are so out of their depth.
Sunday morning on CBC : A prime example of how the Anointed classes support prostrating ourselves politically toward China was in full bloom as a University of Toronto professor explained how Canada needed to re-state its policy of 'diplomatic ambiguity' toward the issue of Taiwan and China.
Canada is a large country but its Liberal political class conducts itself in politics and in business as if our Canada is a small banana republic that, in order to survve, has to be servile toward the Chinese Communist Party syndicate in Beijing.
Only a ballot box revolution can change that.
".....Just how deeply has Canada’s political class become compromised by its intimate and lucrative relationships with individuals and entities affiliated with torture states like Xi Jinping’s China and Ali Khamenei’s Iran?......."
Thank you for a tour-de-force explanation of some of Canada's issues most likely to fail us all, but especially newer (and older) Canadians that have come to Canada under the assumed hope that liberty and a fair chance at full citizenry would be theirs. My only caution would be your comments about Polievre not being as bad for the country when compared with the big two gangs currently planning on winning the next election. While Trudeau has promised nearly all he hasn't delivered, Polievre has proven his instincts lie more with that of an attack dog. When the dog is done with the damage, he has nothing further to offer. It's sad the "Conswervatives" have to resort to a heat-seeking missile for a party leader, one that has more in common with the far right of the U.S. than traditional Canadian values. Our country is sinking toward the right of right, and in our current world situation that places us all in line for a redux of democracy, one that isn't very democratic.
Equating Polievre to an “attack dog” and a “heat-seeking missile” are just typical Liberal ad hominin attacks, used when you have nothing of substance to say, and just want to demonize anyone who disagrees with you. You forgot to label Polievre with the usual list of “-ists” and “-phobes”, but you do go on and to try and equate Polievre to Trump. Canadians are not falling for this nonsense anymore. Look at the latest opinion polls.
Look, you can get to authoritarianism from both the right and the left (remember Stalin?). I am more afraid of the authoritarianism coming from the left, not the right. Was it not Trudeau who suspended civil liberties, implemented the Emergencies Act? Was it not the Liberals who froze the bank accounts of Canadian citizens? Maybe Trudeau and Freeland will next cut off the electricity of any Canadian who dares to challenge them? Is it not Trudeau who is trying to censor the internet? In future posts it would be better to use facts, and not name-calling people “attack dogs” and “heat-seeking missiles”. That sort of rhetoric is tiresome and not productive.
Nelson: You offer more of the same hackneyed rationale for permanent Liberal one-party rule in Ottawa.